Julia Osendi. - Certainly it is a situation different from which in other times we have maintained, when we have been going to the airport to receive them, that has come with the trophies, with the medals, this time is not thus. Then, I want, Erislandy, that you narrate this Cuban town to him, that as much wants them, that as much it has supported them always, what was what truely happened in Rio de Janeiro that day in which they left, decided not to accept the discipline of the Cuban delegation and left the villa? How he was everything, how intercepted them, what happened? Erislandy Lara. - Good, I will say to him to the town of Cuba that the day that we left, indeed to buy, we left Rigondeaux and I to buy things, play-station, clothes for us and the children of us, and in the way he intercepted a Cuban to us, that are called Alexis and walked more with another one, and by means of the long walk for the stores, in the taxi they offered drinks us and we did not accept; but already we arrived at the store, we bought play-station and the things and later we went with him to a bar, and in the bar we began to take, and by means of the tomadera in the bar of the Network Bull and the vodka that we began to take, and we were ourselves there for another side, for a night club. Julia Osendi. - That is, they mixed the Network Bull that is a refreshment with drink. Erislandy Lara. - Yes, with drink and we forgot there. We felt bad, been annoying, and later or they invited to girls, women to us, and we, as we fought to the other day, were scared to return to the villa, because or we had eaten and we were scared to lose by the weight, that that in the boxing is a too serious sanction and we decided to go to us with them. Julia Osendi. - But it is not very simple thus, is not very easy saying: "I am not going to weigh to me". That is, how they take them to the conviction to you that they cannot go to the pesaje because they were going away to happen of weight? How he is that you are going to eat, because they get dizzy with the drink? Erislandy Lara. - Yes, aside from that, we either felt very badly with the drink, we were or —como dice— happened of glass, we felt bad with the drink. We were taken and with the food we were scared to return and to lose by the weight, no longer was time to make the weight. We decided to go to us with them and they invited to us for a night club, they looked for women to us and we were with them, and we were ourselves for an island by there, for a beach and in the beach already, that we were already calm and more or less recovering to us, they began to make us the supplies to us of which we went away to box professional with Germany, and to me they even taught to an X amount to me of money, like 100 000 euros, and I said to him that no, that we turned for Cuba, and followed speaking constantly to us on that, that we in Germany were going to be millionaire, who we could be along with three that went in Venezuela. We said to them that no, that we turned for Cuba, and they it seems that they put themselves brave and they went away and they left us with a Brazilian whom everything trained bond (it deports battle), that took care of to us there. While he was having lunch, we took and left the inn and went to the aid of a fisherman who was fishing, so that he called to the federal police and he asked to us if we were safe of that, we said yes to him that. Then, it called, we explained to him that we were Cuban, boxers who we were lost, and they called to the police and in 20 minutes it was the police with us and took to the Brazilian and they put prisoner. Julia Osendi. - How she was that you with these people of the villa contacted yourselves outside, they called them to you? Previously they had tried to approach you, you had some type of telephone number? Erislandy Lara. - No, they had credentials of the villa. In the credentials of the villa they had were journalists, and when saying to us that they were Cuban and that they were journalists, we thought that was truth and who they wanted to help us and already. They called us by the name of us, said to us: "Lara and Rigondeaux", and we said: "Who is this that knows us". And he says: "No, I am Cuban, I know them you because you are very famous", and we thought, because we have the custom, whenever we traveled, always is a Cuban that wants to help to us and that it takes to us to buy, and we thought that he was one of those; but we realized that it was not of that people, who he was looking for another objective with us. Julia Osendi. - Lara, in no moment you tried to contact with the three boxers been left in Venezuela, who deserted in Venezuela? Erislandy Lara. - At no moment we spoke with no of them, we did not know of them. They said us that they were there, that they had to see with them, that they were of the same company, that they had to do with them, that if we went away we could be five and we were going to be a power for Germany in the boxing and who we were going to make much money, and we said to them that no, that we went for Cuba, because we had been born in Cuba and we are people of the Revolution and who we wanted to turn for Cuba. Julia Osendi. - Indeed, like boxer done by Revolution, that forms part of town Cuban, what you to the lost salary feel those two gold medals that as much lack did the Cuban delegation to him, not to have been in the pesaje, salary —hasta certain point, no?— betrayed to that equipment of boxing, because they left it there, by an indiscipline, reason why he is? Erislandy Lara. - Good, I then felt, which I did not go to the pesaje, the soul fell me by the floor when not being able to also reach my Pan-American gold medal, that was a medal, and when seeing my companions who apparently were calm, but no, they were undergoing the going of us, and also when Brazilian seeing that she is of my weight, that took gold medal, and to the American, which I have fought with them a few times and I have won to them, to see those men who were left champions in those divisions without I to be there. Julia Osendi. - What now say you to him to that town of Cuba? Erislandy Lara. - Good, I say to him to the town of Cuba that has confidence in us, who never we are going it to defraud and who we are going to do all the possible one so that all it comes out to us well and to be able to follow in ahead in the boxing and seeing if we can —si God quiere— to follow with the triumph, to see if we go to the Olympic Games of Beijing. Julia Osendi. - Erislandy, you do not think that you have defrauded the town already? Erislandy Lara. - No, I do not believe that she has defrauded the town, because if I had defrauded the town, if I had betrayed the town, had not turned. If it had betrayed to the mother country, it had not turned, it had gone to me of there same with them, and what I did, as I am a young person of 24 years, anyone must right to be mistaken, and we were mistaken and already we are here, we reflected and we are here with the mother country. Julia Osendi. - What delays from now on? Erislandy Lara. - I hope from now on to be a good athlete, since I have always been, and if God wants, to continue being equipment captain and to continue having my results, frequently, as I have always had them. Julia Osendi. - What would say nonsingle you to them to the boxers, but to those young sportsmen who are in villas or that participate in championships of the world of any sport and which they can live a lamentable situation like this? Erislandy Lara. - Good, I say to them to those athletes, not to the boxers only, all the athletes, who when she says herself: It is not possible to be left to any place, is not because it is a whim, is because the trainers know why they say it, so that he does not happen to them just like he passed us to us, so that later they do not regret which they have done. Julia Osendi. - Good, already we are in the part in which both individual these hit you, you you go to the stores, they are going to take, they take the Network Bull, what I know. They spent two days, Erislandy, two days! When you see that those two days happened, that they what they do is to delay the pesaje to them of you, that is, to confuse them still more, nárrame that episode. Erislandy Lara. - Good, after they passed two days we we felt very badly, because we realized of which they tried to retard us more so that we did not go to the pesaje, and what they did he was to confuse to us so that we betrayed to the equipment. Julia Osendi. - And what you felt when you could not go to the pesaje; you, which you are the captain of that equipment, of those boys? Erislandy Lara. - Good, I felt then as if a dagger in the chest had buried me, when seeing my companions competing, not competing as they compete, but competing decayed by the absence mine and of Guillermo. Julia Osendi. - Erislandy, tell me, later, when you you call to the Federal Police, what happens with the police? When they come, what was what they said to you? How you maintained the decision to turn? Erislandy Lara. - When we called to the Federal Police, that is going to us to gather, they insisted to us on which if we wanted to return to Cuba, that if we were safe to return to Cuba, and we said yes to them that, that we wanted to return to Cuba. The Federal Police said we that had left ourselves in Brazil, that in Brazil we were going to much more have money that in Cuba, that we were going to be a personality in Brazil and that was going to us to make the passports so that we were already officially Brazilian. Julia Osendi. - And what you responded? Erislandy Lara. - That no, which we wanted to turn for Cuba, thus it costs what costs, that we were going to turn for Cuba. Julia Osendi. - To a few days of you to have made that decision, as much the one of not going to the pesaje like the one to return to Cuba. What feels Erislandy Lara? How one feels? You think that you betrayed? You think that you did not betray, that you are a young person of 24 years, who can be mistaken, but that has made a correct decision now? Erislandy Lara. - Good, then I thought that I betrayed my companions not to be with them in the pesaje, and think that yes, that I betrayed to the equipment, and I think that as I am a young person of 24 years I must right to recall to mind and have right to it. We straight must also to mistake to us and to see if an opportunity can be given us. To the town of Cuba, that trusts us, that that more never is going to happen on the part of us. Julia Osendi. - Good, a last question. At the moment they are the 9:25 at night of the day that you returned to Cuba. What feelings here you have? Pain, repentance; to have betrayed pain, repentance reason why you did, happiness because you are again between yours? Erislandy Lara. - Good, I am going to say that I have repentance, pain and happiness, because I am next to my mother country, with my family and the town that I loves to me. Julia Osendi. - Good, at the time of speaking of boxing in Cuba the name of Guillermo Rigondeaux, who very many times we have had the opportunity to interview it and that now we do in a situation sui géneris, in a noncustomary situation cannot be avoided. What happened the day in which they left the villa, lamentably, committing an indiscipline, desoyendo the directions of the control of the Cuban delegation? With whom they were? You knew from before those people? How it was that encounter? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Good, Julita, yes, the town of Cuba is in favor of knowing what happened there in River. I fought day 20, to 6:30 more or less I finished the combat. I left for the street Erislandy Lara and, went to buy play-station, small things and that, and there we were to a German and a Cuban. Julia Osendi. - That was at night? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - At night, they were like the seven and just a little bit. We left with them in a taxi, invited to us to take in a bar, we began to take there with them. Julia Osendi. - You leave thus with whatever she invites them? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - No. What happened was that we left, but we did not think to turn so late, we entertained ourselves with them and they were to us the hours; because we had to train to the other day and Erislandy had to fight by the discussion of the bronze medal, just as I also. It was to us the time there, we began to eat, to take. It was to us the time, but it gave fear us to turn, because no longer there was time to lower of weight, we were going to lose by the weight, and that knows that it is tremendous sanction and tremendous dishonesty by the equipment of Cuba. It gave fear us to turn and we followed with them. For that reason the police could not find, because we changed to us to different places, no, today we were here, at the dawn we left for another place, and the police was concentrated in Rio de Janeiro for the games. The places were several in which we were. We were in the inn Two loves, were in the inn Two pirates, in several places, and finally, it was there where the police... because we called it, was that we found it there. Julia Osendi. - You never maintained, or with those people or others, no attempt to sign a contract? They did not know anybody the German Mafia this the boxing? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - There —no was the German memory nombre—, but there was a Cuban also that was the one that translated. Later we were two Brazilians. The German said to him to the Cuban that he translated, said to him: "Deals to the boys whom a supply are here..." I do not know the exact number, but the one was enough money that was offering. Then it seems that they got tired as much of insisting, that they went away, they went away as two days before and us left Brazilian with both of bond everything, Ricardo Arona and the other nonmemory the name now; but they were two. They went away, the Germans went away. Julia Osendi. - You did not sign any contract? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - No, we did not sign any contract, they were doing us the proposal, but we all along: "No, we are wanted to go for Cuba". But they it seems that they got tired so much who went away. When they arrived at the airport the Federal Police investigated them, but as they did not have any letter signed by any public prosecutor could not take prisoners to them, they went away, and then they left us there with the Brazilians. The Brazilians insisted: "They watch, do not go away already for Cuba, that when they arrive there waits for a sanction to them grandísima". And we: "Compadre, we want to voltar for Cuba". "No, quédense here, that watches, what I know, tomorrow we are going them to take; tomorrow yes, today no, tomorrow ", it was spending the time, it was spending the time. To us it still gave more fear us, because the sanction already was increasing; it was spending the time, was spending the time. They say: "Sight, which hopes to them in Cuba... Sight, right now wrote by Internet that already you are deserters of the mother country ". And we: "Compadre, we also want to turn for Cuba". Then, the owners of the inn left when the police arrived, because we called it, because there were two fishermen who were fishing there and we requested the number to them, what I know, the 190; they called to the Federal Police and in 20 minutes they were there. They took us for the town, we spoke with the Commander of the police of there. He says: "You want to return for Cuba". And we said: "Yes, we want to return for Cuba". And he says: "You know what she hopes to them in Cuba". And we said: "We are arranged... Already, we committed a serious indiscipline and now we must pay by the indiscipline that we committed ". Several public prosecutors met, all said to us the same: "they do not go away for Cuba, that watches, that in Cuba waits for great sanctions to them". And we: "We want to return for Cuba". Julia Osendi. - What you experiment now, repentance, pain, grief reason why you did, happiness to be here with the family? What has in the head Guillermo Rigondeaux now? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Good, now I regret; pain, because I was a safe gold medal for the country, and the equipment was hoping by me, since the equipment just a little bit lowered with the absence of Erislandy Lara and mine, who we are the ship prow, those that we always maintain the boys in guard, and, then, I regret now for that reason, not to reach my title of Pan-American Champion. Julia Osendi. - At some moment you took the telephones of Yurioski Gamboa, Yan Bartelemí, Odlanier Soli's? They tried to communicate with them? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - No, I did not have telephone; but they yes had all those telephones, they yes had everything... Julia Osendi. - The German and the Brazilians? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, they yes had all that. They spoke in their language, for that reason we cannot decirte very well the other things, because they spoke in German. Julia Osendi. - And at some moment they said to them to put them in communication to you with them? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, they were treating that; but like us what we wanted: "No, we do not go away for Cuba". They insisted and we as much: "we go away for Cuba, we go away for Cuba". They went away seems that a little displeased and left the Brazilians there us, and they stayed in contact with others. Julia Osendi. - Rigondeaux, when you it dresses that to you the possibility of the pesaje went away because you ate, because you took, because you did what you did, what did, why did not decide to turn to the villa then and to confront just like they have confronted now? Now they faced it returning Cuba. It was not easier to turn to the villa? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, it was easier, but he gave fear us, because that is one serious sanction, that determines a great sanction. Julia Osendi. - And now is not more serious, Rigondeaux? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, now he is serious also. We are sorry, are arranged to do what is, because no longer can be turned for back, we already are in the mother country, in the Revolution, and that crime that we committed is necessary to pay it. Julia Osendi. - How you have felt here to your return? How it has been the family? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - No, the family is very well, here everybody is supporting to us, and everybody asks to us: "What happened". And we must explain the town to him, so that the town knows the reality. Julia Osendi. - How you have felt like refugee? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Good, I have felt like very refugee, because I have had my chain of victories invicto for the mother country, the Revolution, and continue being one of the athletes of most important in this Revolution. Now I feel very adolorido. Julia Osendi. - You have felt supported by the people who have received to you? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, the people who have received to us support much to us and they always say that always the truth to us. Julia Osendi. - You think that the Cuban boxing in general sense always been has harassed, and at this moment more, by the German Mafia? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Good, the German Mafia..., that people is put anywhere, always are trying to bribe an athlete, to another one, always offer to you; they always are everywhere. Julia Osendi. - What advice you would give nonsingle the boxers, but to the young sportsmen who go for the first time to an event, of this multiple type, that you know that they are in villas? What advice you them DAS, of which they assimilate the discipline —que is not by gusto— that he establishes the Cuban delegation? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Good, the delegation establishes a very important discipline, that cannot be disobeyed, because it already watches what it passed us to us. I say to them that they are not let take by anything, because it watches what it passed us to us to leave the villa. Julia Osendi. - He is incredible, Rigondeaux. Rigondeaux, you mounted in the taxi and you that way went away to take the refreshment with the rum, the one that I know, and lost the mind? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - We were scared more because we saw the hour, we had already eaten, but there was no return back because no longer we could lower of weight, and he gave more fear us, if we turned, which was going to happen, because no longer we could fight, we were going to lose by the weight. Julia Osendi. - How you ate, because they were taking? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - No, already we ate, because we were lowering from the previous day of weight to discuss to the other day the bronze medal. Either I had fought the previous day, day 20, and or fought by the bronze medal. Julia Osendi. - Yes, yes. Explícame thing, when you finished the fight, that you gained the Puerto Rican to him, that day returned to the villa and that same day was the one that left to buy to the stores? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - That same day was that we left, like a six and tip or the seven, more or less, we left. Julia Osendi. - They went to the stores? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, because the stores close late. They said to us: "No, we are going them to take to a place that is more cheap". We took by them, and we began to take, we put in cabarets and that, and of we did not turn there more for back, until now that we returned to the mother country. Julia Osendi. - Is sorry, Rigondeaux, of that committed serious indiscipline? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - That is a very serious indiscipline and I am very sorry. And I think that more it hurts to me that I did not reach my title of Pan-American Champion, who I am one of the athletes who more responsibility I have in this Revolution. I think that I am very sorry. Julia Osendi. - What waits for Guillermo Rigondeaux now? What you think that it happens? To what you are arranged? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Good, I am arranged to fulfill all the tasks that the maximum representatives say, and am here in the mother country, in the Revolution. That all the town of Cuba has me, that I inside and outside the country always gain my gold medal. Julia Osendi. - Rigondeaux, when the Germans become angry, who they see that there are no possibilities of buying them to you, that they remain single there in the beach, what was what happened, how you manage to accede to the fisherman, how the fishing flame to the police, what said the police to them? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Good, they went away as two days before and left us with the Brazilians. They went to have lunch and we left and we asked to them the fishermen if they knew some number of the Federal Police, they called to the 190, and in 20 minutes already the police were there, and they remained Brazilian both with us. Already, everybody was for the Federal Police and already there all the delegates, everybody said to us: "They watch, quédense here, they do not go for Cuba, that back in Cuba is waiting for a great sanction to them." And we: "No, we want to voltar for Cuba". "He hears, surely, you you are safe of that" "No, we yes are safe". And already, everybody did the same question to us. Julia Osendi. - Voltar, to return? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, to return. Julia Osendi. - Guillermo Rigondeaux, how you found the family, the boy is well? How many boys have you? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - I have one and hijastro that is greater, is 15 years old. Julia Osendi. - That it young you also? Guillermo Rigondeaux. - Yes, the crie I also. And the family, my mother, my sister, everybody is enough good.
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